#43: The Church as Destiny Incubator (with Michael Brodeur)

#43: The Church as Destiny Incubator (with Michael Brodeur)

Michael Brodeur is a pastor to pastors and a church consultant. We discussed church growth vs church health, the failing megachurch model and the differences between family churches and factory churches. Michael told me that part of the spiritual responsibility of leaders is to help people discover their unique gift mix, their unique passions and dreams, and to get them on a path towards that outcome. If you’re in pastoral ministry you should definitely have a listen.

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#32: Pastoring with the Holy Spirit (with Adam & Amy Ryan)

#32: Pastoring with the Holy Spirit (with Adam & Amy Ryan)

Pastoring a church is hard work. I spoke with Adam & Amy Ryan about their journey as a pastoral couple leading a small but vibrant Holy Spirit-oriented church. We discussed identity, whose church it really is, and regaining hope after seasons of hardship. Amy & Adam also shared about a chance encounter with Andrew Brunson, the American pastor recently released from prison in Turkey.

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#29: I Kissed My Dating Book Goodbye (with Joshua Harris)

#29: I Kissed My Dating Book Goodbye (with Joshua Harris)

If you were a Christian teenager in the late 90s or early 2000s there’s a good chance you read or were influenced by “I Kissed Dating Goodbye.” Twenty years on Joshua Harris has re-evaluated his message and removed the books from print. Joshua and I discussed the purity culture, the positive and negative effects of encouraging abstinence, his role in the pain that people experienced, and what the church can do better to prevent things like this happening in the future.

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#20: Forgiving the Church (with Carol Howard Merritt)

#20: Forgiving the Church (with Carol Howard Merritt)

Pastor & author Carol Howard Merritt and I had a broad ranging discussion on how the church holds up patriarchy and shames victims of abuse, forgiveness as a process, love in the face of economic injustice, and a God who offers rivers of healing and restoration to all.

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