Pastoring a small, young church is hard work. Especially when you have young kids at home yourselves. I spoke with Adam & Amy Ryan, pastors of Catch The Fire Church in Kitchener, about their journey from adolescents struggling with depression and rejection to being a pastoral couple leading a vibrant Holy Spirit-oriented church together. We discussed identity, whose church it really is, and how to regain hope after seasons of hardship. Amy also shared about a chance encounter with Andrew Brunson, the American pastor recently released from prison in Turkey.