#65: Building Resilient Disciples (with David Kinnaman)
“Let’s be honest with ourselves about the place the church is in today, and it’s lack of broader transformational impact.
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David Kinnaman is President of the Barna Group, specialists in church-related research. He joined me on the show this week to discuss what is working in churches around the world looking to build resilient, faithful disciples. We also discussed using research as a lens on what’s happening in culture, and using that as a means of helping the church understand its times and the way forward.
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