#82: When Suffering Lingers (with K.J. Ramsey)
“Jesus has forever changed what suffering is, so that we do not have to fear these things that linger. By going the ultimate distance he has made every place of human existence & pain a place of his presence.”
K.J. Ramsey is a therapist, writer and the author of This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers. K.J. and I have become good friends over the course of the pandemic, and in this interview we discussed the hope embedded in suffering, the tension between Jesus’ words “All these things and more you will do” and “In this life, you will have troubles”. She shared how stories that include very hard things can also include great hope and love, and how brain science reveals that being still with God in the midst of our suffering is of transformative importance. I cannot recommend her to you highly enough.
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