#25: Authenticity in brokenness (with Sheila Walsh)

Does God love the truly broken more than the rest? No, it’s just that we dare to believe it. At our worst, at our most broken, we discover how outrageously we are loved. And I’ve also discovered that my genuine brokenness is a far greater bridge to other people than my pretend wholeness ever was.
— Sheila Walsh

Sheila Walsh is a well-known singer and songwriter, television host, author and speaker, and much more, originally from Scotland and now living in the US. Sheila and I talked about brokenness, pain, mental health, suicide, gender roles in church, the God who loves us through it all, and of course her new book: It’s OK Not To Be OK. Sheila dropped some of the most quotable quotes of any guest I’ve had yet on the show. Check it out below.


It’s Okay Not to be Okay, by Sheila Walsh
In the Middle of the Mess, by Sheila Walsh
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