#35: Love, justice and universalism (with Wm. Paul Young)
“The Good News of the cross is that you, and all of creation, are included. Now, let’s talk about what that means relationally because you can say no. You get to choose whether you participate in the salvation that was accomplished for all.”
So I’m talking to William Paul Young, and I’m thinking, “Man, I’ve got the author of The Shack and Lies We Believe About God right here. Do I ask him about universalism? Does he believe God is a woman? What does he believe about hell? Can I ask to see his heretic card? Where do I even begin?!” I ended up asking him some of those questions (though not all of them), and we had a beautiful, dynamic conversation centred on the intersection of love and justice in the context of Christ’s finished work on the cross. Beware… this podcast might change your life.
Contains a few instances of slightly strong language. Enjoy!
Resources:
The Shack, by Wm. Paul Young
Lies We Believe About God, by Wm. Paul Young
The Shack Revisited, by C. Baxter Kruger
Cross Roads, by Wm. Paul Young
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Kat Armas comes to the show this week to discuss embodiment, the sacredness of survival, and the faith of our grandmothers. Kat argues that our grandmothers, especially abuelitas in Latine cultures, function as live-in ministers particularly because the privilege to receive formal religious instruction is often unavailable. We all miss out on the unique, embodied, ways of knowing truth and practicing wisdom when we don’t turn our gaze to these figures who have been in our lives since before we were born. Kat’s book is called, Abuelita Faith: What Women on the Margins Teach us About Wisdom, Persistence, and Strength, and it’s excellent.